Concern (but not) Trolling

So the convention is over, and John McCain received his bounce, moving ahead of Barack Obama in the Gallup Tracking poll. Bounces are referred to as such for a particular reason: they tend to be fleeting. Will this even be discussed in a week's time? And so far, it appears that neither McCain's (nor Obama's) bounce is atypical.

Regardless, with Obama generally perceived to have been the slim frontrunner since June, John McCain leading in any poll is difficult to swallow, especially with a history of imploding democratic campaigns.

Gallup and Rasmussen disagree over the source of the bounce. Gallup shows either a direct shift of Obama support moving to McCain or and indirect shift of Obama support to undecided and undecided to McCain. Rasmussen, on the other hand, shows McCain picking up undecided voters while Obama hold strong. The latter is the more optimistic scenario, especially if there exists a direct shift.

I'm not sure what could have been done to avoid a McCain bounce. John McCain could have and would have always chosen Palin no matter who the nominee was, and by the time the screaming subsided, the damage would be done. Jindal and any other conservative hatchet(wo)men filling the Dick Cheney role could have been selected, and a minority male could have been used if Hillary was selected. You think that's crazy? Even the Republican talking heads dismissed Sarah Palin.

I think to a certain extent we progressives were spoiled, so used to McCain going nowhere, we never expected he would actually try to win this. Our dreams of a boring white male pick were dashed, and really, we cannot sit on our hands waiting for McCain to mess up (again), which to a large part has been our strategy. Barack Obama must win this.

I have gotten the impression from the Obama campaign that they are trying to run the clock out like they did in the primaries.

That just won't work.

The race is very fluid, and there has been no break moment that fundamentally put Obama at a disadvantage. However, the cautiousness and reluctance to throw a punch most stop. Every day that goes by after the convention is a day wasted without hard hitting.

If you think Sarah Plain was the end, you are wrong. It has the potential to be the beginning. They are going to do whatever it takes to win. They showed us that in Minneapolis, even if it means putting a wholly unqualified monster on the ticket to reignite the culture war.

The will Willie Horton Obama.
They will Swift Boat Obama.
They will call Obama at 3AM.
They will play the terror card.
And I wouldn't even be surprised if there was a terror alert (or, G-d forbid, attack too).

The Republicans have become the party of the low information voter. Having taken the high road, Obama has generated much support, but he also puts himself at terrible risk by constantly reacting instead of acting.  All of the above are distinct possibilities. We have every right to be "concerned". Obama must be ready, or once again, the Republicans will snatch victory away from us at the last minute. I was disappointed by Obama's silence during the Republican Convention. And so here is where I tell David Axelrod the simple truth: The best defense is a good offense.

What can you do?  
Donate.
Volunteer.
And generate some noise and some momentum.

[editor's note, by iohs2008]Pesky auto correct option.

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true. (2.00 / 1)

the problem that is going on now and is repeated every cycle by the Dems is the continual underestimation of the GOP as a party of rednecks etc - they know how to win - no one should forget this.

however - i do disagree that palin would have been selected if clinton was on the ticket.

rec'd


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:35:48 PM EST

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Hi CG,

Good to see you again.

-Stipes


by AntiStipes on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:43:13 PM EST
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CG, how I feel right now (2.00 / 1)

about Palin as an Obama supporter is the same way I felt about Obama as a HRC supporter: how the heck do you run against this phenom?  What is startling about Palin is that she has been able to become a superstar in a week, while it took Obama until November at the JJ dinner to find his groove.  I see some dangerous parallels now that Palin is the new Obama in terms of press attention and excitement.

You and I will diverge on this next point.  One of HRC's biggest mistakes against Obama was not going negative against him earlier; she only started to hit him, even though he was hitting her continually through the fall, after he had become a phenom at the JJ Dinner.  From the memos, it seems as if her people were most concerned about Edwards and werne't too worried about Obama.  That's why I see the peril in the "let's ignore Palin" approach that some people are suggesting.  Letting a phenom build and build was a recipe for disaster in HRC's case and ironically could be for Obama.  

I'm in the Jeralyn Merritt camp that we've got to bring the Palin phenom back to earth.  Of course, everything should be above the belt but we seem to disagree on what is fair and what is not fair.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:08:07 PM EST
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As for as the argument (2.00 / 1)

that people never vote for the bottom of the ticket, the easy response is "this election is different."  After all, isn't that our response to any argument that you cannot win an election relying on increasing turnout among young voters, African-Americans, and Hispanics?  This election is different, it works both ways.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:09:41 PM EST
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Re: CG, how I feel right now (2.00 / 0)

"how the heck do you run against this phenom?"

You run against the top of the ticket. You run on issues that matter to Americans. Once you start playing the "character" game, you become victim to the viccisitudes of the media.

Clinton actually had more success when she avoided the personality approach and made her message about the issues. Obama still beat her because he's strong on the issues (and wasn't much different from her to begin with).

McPalin doesn't offer American anything issue-wise, which is why they want to make this all about personality and star power (i.e. hers, as it's the "freshist" at the moment).

Keep to the issues. Obama and Biden know it. The rest is just a distraction.


"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008
by BobzCat on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 08:53:34 PM EST
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Sitting on their gun powder (none / 0)

The McCain camp really hasn't seen the campaign as starting until after the conventions.  The difference between HRC's campaign and the general election is all of the votes are counted at the end of the campaign.  

The continual harping on Palin's inexperience is only bringing to life the once dead argument against Obama's experience.  Even if you dismiss all of the talk about executive experience Obama barely trumps Palin.  

She is in high demand now and will only go to friendly news sources for interviews.  So she will get in front of the public in drips throughout the last two months of the election.  Not like the dirt on her which was unloaded in 4 days.


by Classical Liberal on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 11:01:29 PM EST
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Re: Concern (but not) Trolling (none / 0)

"Barack" not Barrack.

Please spell our candidate's name correctly.


If you had everything, where would you put it?
by wasanyonehurt on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:41:11 PM EST

Re: Concern (but not) Trolling (none / 0)

I noticed you kept the diary title in your comment.  How appropriate.


by SuperCameron on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:53:59 PM EST
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My Bad (none / 0)

My spell checker, for some strange reason, seems to be auto correcting for Barrack. will fix.


I attended PUMACon '08!!!
by iohs2008 on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:18:50 PM EST
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That's funny. (none / 0)

Given the "low-information voter" reference in the body of the diary.


by georgiapeach on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:31:26 PM EST
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Re: Concern (but not) Trolling (none / 0)

The solution to this problem is to fight back...very hard.

That's what I plan to do.  McCain no longer gets a free pass from me.  I'm going right at him.


by AntiStipes on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:42:22 PM EST

Re: Concern (but not) Trolling (2.00 / 1)

So far, what we see is the return of the political fault lines of the 2000 and 2004 elections. This means that a thousand vote shift here and there will determine the election.

I do think that McCain would not have picked Palin had Clinton been on the ticket. Once Clinton was not picked, McCain had an opening to make electoral gains with "Waitress Moms," older, low income, white women who do not vote in the primaries, but do in the general election. Hillary on the ticket would have closed that opening and McCain would have opted for a different strategy. But of course, I can't read McCain's mind.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 06:25:27 PM EST

Re: Concern (but not) Trolling (none / 0)

Sure, but you can read the polls.  Has their been a significant shift in white women from Obama to McCain since Palin was picked?  If so, then you're probably right.  If not, then he probably would have picked her regardless.  They do poll for this stuff: a lot.


by Jordache on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 09:53:42 PM EST
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